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ellis tourney

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:40 pm
by ellisdisc57
Grandpa's Last Gasp---Sunday, june 23

registration 8:00-945
player's meeting 9;45
start 10;00

pros $45
amateurs $35
juniors $25

$5 ace fund included in entry fee

$300 added cash to pro purse

fo mo info call 785-726-4862

Re: ellis tourney

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:21 am
by Swede
Is Grandpa still breathing?

Re: ellis tourney

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:20 pm
by ellisdisc57
results sky vue 2013

two rounds of 18

open
1. matt geist 58-57 115 $220
2. tracy ruder 57-60 117 $90
3. taylor pennington 58-61 119 $80
4. daniel braun 62-59 121 $65
5. bryce ficken 64-58 122 $55
6. kyle kuhn 61-64 125 $50
7. joey wasinger 66-61 127 $40
8. scott haynes 62-66 128 $30
9. josh ficken 63-66 129
10.chase king 64-66 130
11.a.j. carl 68-64 132

masters
1. claudio alvarez 64-55 119 $120
2. buddy kasner 57-64 121 $80
3. kirk ficken 62-64 126 $60
4. kevin rorabaugh 63-64 127 $50
5. ken templin 70-62 132 $40
6. earl carey 67-72 139

advanced
1. tom williams 62-62 123 $135
2. darrell sanders 62-62 124 $90
3. jesus alvarez 61-66 127 $75
4. uriah cooper 62-66 128 $60
5. dusty ream 63-68 131
6. korey pfannensteil 64-69 133

junior
brady jaques 67-67 134 $60


there were no aces

ace ctp throwoff
a.j. carl $55
kirk ficken $30
darrel sanders $35

Re: ellis tourney

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:11 pm
by Schoen-hopper
Dang, looks like lots of added cash and deep payouts!

Re: ellis tourney

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:59 pm
by Swede
Thanks mysterious Ellis tournament runner for posting thorough results. Here's your K-Ratings (In order, Mike)...

58 57 115 947 973 Matt Geist
57 60 117 956 947 Tracy Ruder
58 61 119 947 938 Taylor Pennington
64 55 119 892 991 Claudio Alvarez
57 64 121 956 911 Buddy Kassner
62 59 121 910 955 Daniel Braun
64 58 122 892 964 Bryce Ficken
62 62 124 910 929 Darrell Sander
62 62 124 910 929 Tom Williams
61 64 125 919 911 Kyle Kuhn
62 64 126 910 911 Kirk Ficken
61 66 127 919 894 Jesus Alvarez
63 64 127 901 911 Kevin Rorabaugh
66 61 127 873 938 Joey Wasinger
62 66 128 910 894 Scott Haynes
62 66 128 910 894 Uriah Cooper
63 66 129 901 894 Josh Ficken
64 66 130 892 894 Chase King
63 68 131 901 876 Dusty Ream
68 64 132 855 911 A.J. Carl
70 62 132 836 929 Ken Templin
64 69 133 892 867 Korey Pfanensteil
67 67 134 864 885 Brady Jaques
67 72 139 864 841 Earl Carey

Re: ellis tourney

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:47 pm
by Ruder
Ouch... Those ratings are really low.

Re: ellis tourney

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:08 pm
by Swede
Ruder wrote:Ouch... Those ratings are really low.
My thoughts too. Do you think they aren't accurate? I've never played Ellis and a I only know a couple folks on the list well enough to know if those are below average.

There is nothing subjective about the way ratings are done but maybe there is some factor I don't know about that skewed the numbers?

Re: ellis tourney

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:07 pm
by nastyNate
seems like Kevin added a couple holes last year. if they played 20 or 21 that would really scew the numbers

Re: ellis tourney

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:53 pm
by Swede
He posted 2 rounds of 18

Re: ellis tourney

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:59 pm
by Ruder
There were only 18 holes. There were 4 super legitimate par 4's. People were taking 7's and 8's on multiple holes. I'm not sure I can pretend I shot a 1000 rated first round but that was solid 985 golf. I was thinking I was going to shoot 985 and a 965

Re: ellis tourney

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:56 pm
by Swede
Well I tinkered with the numbers a bit but I can't make them any bigger. I've been using the player ratings of folks with 7 or more rounds as "seeds" to generate the round ratings. There weren't many players at Ellis with that many rounds. I thought maybe it was the small sample size that wacked the ratings.

So I tried using everyone with a rating as "seeds." The ratings were within 1 point. I then tried just using Buddy and Ruder as seeds (the two with the most rounds and so the most accurate ratings) and all the ratings dropped more than 10 points.

Looks like several players played well above their average and several played well below. In other words, I can't find anything wrong.

Re: ellis tourney

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:09 am
by Schoen-hopper
The PDGA events tend to have a lot more propagators, which makes the ratings better reflect the true skill of the round played. If the few that were in were lower rated and shot well, this can make a big impact. And a lot of times it is the lower rated players with just a few rounds and since they are improving, such a scenario isn't that unlikely.