Elks Nov 7th

[pschmidt]

2009 course map link below. More trees will come into play this year.

http://members.cox.net/skyhyzer/ElksMap.pdf

[jump_putter]

any idea on the distances on these holes??

[pschmidt]

any idea on the distances on these holes??

I took the Google map into AutoCAD and traced it. The scale Google had looks right for some holes but not for others. Hole #1 is somewhere between 800 & 900 ft. and #14 is about 350 ft.

[Schoen-hopper]

Can you give a summary of the course changes?

Last year, I posted a detailed hole-by-hole review, but can't find it anywhere. From the map, it looks like 7, 8, & 9 are different? What other holes?

Also seems like I remember the distances being posted last year, but couldn't find them.

The course we played last year was pretty killer. Some classic holes, and you can't beat a golf cart, BBQ, & keg beer! The fast greens were amazing. The course flow was good, but there were a few holes that could have been tweaked a little to make them much better.

Here are the holes I remembered liking:

13!: Shortish, but very tricky anyhyzer into a clearing in the trees.
2: Reachable downhill birdie opportunity, but enough trouble to get some bogies as well.
4: Wide open, but reachable. The part i like was the basket was perched on a servere slope that meant if you weren't pretty close, you had a very scary putt.
6: Lots of pines through the middle with big lefty & righty hyzer options. Would love to see more holes utiltize these great trees.
10: Way too long to birdie, but this was a great par 3.5 hole. Saw many going OB trying to shortcut the hole for no good reason. Liked how the water hazard snuck into the fairway and loved the uphill approach that had to be attached from the side.
14: Good water hole. Should be a birdie, but that water gets in your head a little and if you bail out left, you have a "death putt".

Good / Bad:
15/16: Can't remember if the sidewalk was on one or both of these. Maybe it was just 15. These shorties would be great holes if the sidewalk to the right was OB. As they were, they were duece or die holes. Better holes seperate the good players rather than the bad. To make these holes better, a little shorter & tricker for a par 3. Or a bit longer & tricker for a true par 4.

Didn't Like:

1: Awesome looking 800'+ opening hole right down a fairway. Trees only in play for those bad drives from people trying to crush it. The reason the hole was not right was the distance. Few players have the D to make 3 and those that do are not likely. So a well played hole and a poorly played hole both result in a score of 4. Make it 60' shorter and it might be a much better & funner hole.
3, 7, 8, 9, 17, 18: These holes all fell into the same boat: Too long to birdie and too open to bogey. Like an Auto-3 hole, with poor scoring sperad. Since the bogey is more likely due to players trying to force a birdie that isn't there, the hole seperates the worst players rather than the best, which also isn't ideal.

What would be cool:
-The coolest shot on a ball golf course is throwing a roller through the short grass and watching it go forever! How about a hole that rewards a good roller?
-How about an awesome par 5 over/under/around a tree row, with an OB cartpath that doglegs? Or something crazy like that? A hole that made you scratch your head at how to best attack it? Perfect location to utilize something like this.
-How about having a hole or 2 where the fairway line was an OB line? It makes for the perfect line! Here's an idea: instead of outside the fairway is OB, how about inside is OB? Think hole 5, an optimal visual, because it plays downhill & diagonally with the fairway. The basket is close to some gnarly trees and there is tallgrass beyond, which is OB. Say you made it a little longer and said the fairway was OB? Players could still bail out left, but have a tough approach. Or you could gun at it, just don't go too far!

Great course, but the potential is there to make a masterpeice- USDGC style!

[Mace Man]

Mike you were right on the hole cahnges als0 holes 2 and 3 were also changed,
#1 the basket will be tucked to the right of the farway.

#2 was straighted out to put more trees into play.

Hole 3 is alittle shorter than what the map shows it was moved into the trees and made a slight uphill shot no standard hyzer.

#9 is up and down through a small valley with trees on the right for added trouble.

[Mace Man]

any idea on the distances on these holes??

we will work on getting distances for them just got changes made

I will have an updated paid prereg list up tonight

[smitty]

Why would they contact you?

If you want to register, all the info is on this thread.

[mrsenortyler]

Online registration is now open HERE.

Yeah, here is the link again.

[Mace Man]

This event is open to all players

Here is the paid pre registration to date, I have not received the online registration from Kyle since Tuesday but should be getting an update soon. As you can see there a lot of local players that have not got on the list yet, it will grow soon.

1 MPO Brady Younger
2 MPO Chad Garrison
3 MPO RONNIE UNRUH
4 MPM Iqbal Jehan
5 MPM Darren Bottom
6 MPM Tom Vierthaler
7 MPM Dale Bare
8 MPM Richard Buller
9 MPG Bart Patton
10 MPG Buddy Kassner
11 MPG Dave Richardson
12 MPG Harvey Barger
13 FW1 Debbie Emel
14 FW2 Amanda Cuddy
15 MM1 Brian Sheilds
16 MM1 Harvey Wall
17 MA1 Brandon Mace
18 MA1 Chris Affholder
19 MA1 Scott Haynes
20 MA1 Phillip Schdmit
21 MA1 Jordan Cranston
22 MA2 Casey Fluty

Pespi has got on board so now the Bracelets will include can pepsi products, bottled water, Gaterade, BBQ food on the patio and KEG beer.

The weather man is giving a good forcast of around 60 for Saturday.

Anybody having anyother question that can't be found here can call me @ 785-342-7162

[jump_putter]

Jeff Ring cant reg. online but will be there on Sat early and wants in

[disc golf superhero]

Can you give a summary of the course changes?

Last year, I posted a detailed hole-by-hole review, but can't find it anywhere. From the map, it looks like 7, 8, & 9 are different? What other holes?

Also seems like I remember the distances being posted last year, but couldn't find them.

The course we played last year was pretty killer. Some classic holes, and you can't beat a golf cart, BBQ, & keg beer! The fast greens were amazing. The course flow was good, but there were a few holes that could have been tweaked a little to make them much better.

Here are the holes I remembered liking:

13!: Shortish, but very tricky anyhyzer into a clearing in the trees.
2: Reachable downhill birdie opportunity, but enough trouble to get some bogies as well.
4: Wide open, but reachable. The part i like was the basket was perched on a servere slope that meant if you weren't pretty close, you had a very scary putt.
6: Lots of pines through the middle with big lefty & righty hyzer options. Would love to see more holes utiltize these great trees.
10: Way too long to birdie, but this was a great par 3.5 hole. Saw many going OB trying to shortcut the hole for no good reason. Liked how the water hazard snuck into the fairway and loved the uphill approach that had to be attached from the side.
14: Good water hole. Should be a birdie, but that water gets in your head a little and if you bail out left, you have a "death putt".

Good / Bad:
15/16: Can't remember if the sidewalk was on one or both of these. Maybe it was just 15. These shorties would be great holes if the sidewalk to the right was OB. As they were, they were duece or die holes. Better holes seperate the good players rather than the bad. To make these holes better, a little shorter & tricker for a par 3. Or a bit longer & tricker for a true par 4.

Didn't Like:

1: Awesome looking 800'+ opening hole right down a fairway. Trees only in play for those bad drives from people trying to crush it. The reason the hole was not right was the distance. Few players have the D to make 3 and those that do are not likely. So a well played hole and a poorly played hole both result in a score of 4. Make it 60' shorter and it might be a much better & funner hole.
3, 7, 8, 9, 17, 18: These holes all fell into the same boat: Too long to birdie and too open to bogey. Like an Auto-3 hole, with poor scoring sperad. Since the bogey is more likely due to players trying to force a birdie that isn't there, the hole seperates the worst players rather than the best, which also isn't ideal.

What would be cool:
-The coolest shot on a ball golf course is throwing a roller through the short grass and watching it go forever! How about a hole that rewards a good roller?
-How about an awesome par 5 over/under/around a tree row, with an OB cartpath that doglegs? Or something crazy like that? A hole that made you scratch your head at how to best attack it? Perfect location to utilize something like this.
-How about having a hole or 2 where the fairway line was an OB line? It makes for the perfect line! Here's an idea: instead of outside the fairway is OB, how about inside is OB? Think hole 5, an optimal visual, because it plays downhill & diagonally with the fairway. The basket is close to some gnarly trees and there is tallgrass beyond, which is OB. Say you made it a little longer and said the fairway was OB? Players could still bail out left, but have a tough approach. Or you could gun at it, just don't go too far!

Great course, but the potential is there to make a masterpeice- USDGC style!

I didn't take time to read any of this but rumor is course improvement = "STRIPPERS"!

[jnotty]

Are we able to get into town on Friday and play the course at all?

[Schoen-hopper]

Mike you were right on the hole cahnges als0 holes 2 and 3 were also changed,
#1 the basket will be tucked to the right of the farway.

#2 was straighted out to put more trees into play.

Hole 3 is alittle shorter than what the map shows it was moved into the trees and made a slight uphill shot no standard hyzer.

#9 is up and down through a small valley with trees on the right for added trouble.

Sounds good, depending on who the strippers are.

[Mace Man]

Are we able to get into town on Friday and play the course at all?

No After the ball golfers are done Friday night will set up the course.

[Ruder]

I'll be signing up tuesday