2010 USDGC top 5

[mrsenortyler]

Also, ball golf distinguishes between hazards & out of bounds. Water and other hazards do not require stroke & distance penalties.

This is a good point. I know we're not ball golf, but it would be neat to see different types of hazards and penalties.

[Schoen-hopper]

If you have easy putts for par after going OB, the OB is too close to the green.

I think they should support the rules as they work just fine. By "experimenting" at perhaps the most highly reputed tournament, it doesn't show much credibility for our sport.

[mrsenortyler]

I think experimenting here is a good idea. They can experiment on the world's best talent, and see how it really affects play. Try getting this same group of guys to come play the Frizzz.

[Schoen-hopper]

They do a lot of experimenting at the Friz too. World class talent there too, just a different kind.

[mrsenortyler]

World class talent there too

I think the best way to say this would be, "A class of talent found nowhere else in the world."

[Kindy]

As a person that attended the event I want to give my opinion on the "Stroke and Distance" rule. This was some of the most boring disc golf. Most spectators do not go to an event to watch a group of four lay up on a 365 ft hole and then lay up for 3. This was hole 14 which was the hole that Nikko went OB on later in the round. The group I was following (Emac, Uli, Cale, Adam Hunt) all made 3 on hole 14 and said, "That is some exciting golf." This course is amazing and can be played as is. The -16 by Anthon was a once in a lifetime score. These are world class disc golfers, I would expect them to shoot a great score every so often.

[Schoen-hopper]

You wouldn't think it would take a genius to realize that this would be less than desirable. In ball golf, stroke & distance is applied to OB only, not other hazards. And their is bail out room at least in one direction. I think tightening up the OB in discs golf works great for challenge, but only if normal OB rules apply. And the shape of the OB definely plays a factor in how fair the OB plays.

[smitty]

Hole 14 is almost impossible to gun at with OB left being brought closer to the pin. The ground slopes away from the pin and there is a sidewalk that use to be the OB line on the right.

If you are lefty or a have a great flick shot, this was probably your year to win the championship.


Innova screwed up on 2 things if you ask me.

1) every other year for the event.
2) stroke and distance with such tight fairways.

[mrsenortyler]

You wouldn't think it would take a genius to realize that this would be less than desirable. In ball golf, stroke & distance is applied to OB only, not other hazards. And their is bail out room at least in one direction. I think tightening up the OB in discs golf works great for challenge, but only if normal OB rules apply. And the shape of the OB definely plays a factor in how fair the OB plays.

The problem is that we don't have other hazards. All hazards are defined as OB. Some non-sanctioned tournaments have bunkers, with UD throws, but the PDGA rules don't really allow for this.

Hole 14 is almost impossible to gun at with OB left being brought closer to the pin. The ground slopes away from the pin and there is a sidewalk that use to be the OB line on the right.

If you are lefty or a have a great flick shot, this was probably your year to win the championship.

Yeah they really changed up that hole. All RHBH shots skipping towards OB with a penalty like that is just crazy. We did see some good sidearm shots on the live feed.

Innova screwed up on 2 things if you ask me.

1) every other year for the event.
2) stroke and distance with such tight fairways.

I wonder what the real reasons are for going every other year. It was interesting to see the Stroke and Distance play out, but in retrospect I'd have to agree with you guys that it wasn't the right move.

[smitty]

The reason for the change is simple. $$$

If you get rid of the richest event in the World, which you host/fund, you can save a lot of money. Then you add an AM event to take its place, you can make a little money.


That would be my guess.

[mrsenortyler]

My thinking too. That thing can't be cheap to host.

[Swede]

Just gotta stick my neck out and say that it sure didn't look boring. At least the final round wasn't. That "two horse race" got a whole lot closer to the rest of the pack and with each steed giving up 4 strokes on different holes, I thought it was pretty exciting. Willie kept a ridiculously cool head from what I saw and that earned him the tourney. Yeah, hole 14 was certainly not the showcase hole. Unfortunately camera placement dictated that it would get a lot of coverage. I wonder how different opinions would be if the camera wasn't randomly on that hole.

[R/B]

Mace was at Tournament central, I would like to hear his take on things. This thing has came along way from the old clips Ive seen, like in 2004 when Ron Converse was is in the lead group with climo , and they were 20 seconds long. I,m sure Smittys right , and it,s about the money, it seems everything is about money. One thing I note is it looks like the youth is prevailing!