Jump putt

[durtydoggy]

I was looking at the PDGA Rulebook and in section 803.04 A (1) It says. when the disc is released, a player must: have at least one supporting point that is in contact with the playing surface on the line of play within 30 centimeters directly behind the marker disc......

Wouldn't that make jump putting illegal?

[disclizard]

Read farther down and you get this: C. Any throw from within 10 meters or less, as measured from the rear of the marker disc
to the base of the hole, is considered a putt. A follow-through after a putt that causes the
thrower to make any supporting point contact closer to the hole than the rear edge of the
marker disc constitutes a falling putt and is considered a stance violation . The player must demonstrate full
control of balance before advancing toward the hole.

Outside of that 10 meter circle around the basket you can jump putt

[durtydoggy]

Yeah but that could mean that a leg could contact the ground ahead of the marker on a follow thru.. etc... you still have a plant foot on the ground. But when jump putting you have no contact point on the ground.

[disclizard]

Now here is a rule that I never really read untill now and noticed that alot of people violate this rule. : 803:3 A. After each throw, the thrown disc must be left where it came to rest until the lie is established by the placing of a marker. This can be done by placing a mini marker disc on the playing surface between the hole and the disc, directly in line with the hole, on the line of play, touching the thrown disc. A player may instead choose, without touching or repositioning the thrown disc, to use the thrown disc as the marker. The marker may not be moved until the throw is released. A marker inadvertently moved prior to the throw shall be returned to its correct location.


A player may instead choose, without touching or repositioning the thrown disc, to use the thrown disc as the marker. That meens that either use a mini or throw from behind your disc where it is. Flipping your disc over is a violation of the rule because you touched it before marking your lie. interesting?

[durtydoggy]

Yeah i read that one too..... But with how this is stated "when the disc is released, a player must: have at least one supporting point that is in contact with the playing surface" wouldnt that make a jump putt illegal?

[disclizard]

I would say yes. but i know alot of people will argue it as well as any rule that they break regularly. This is the very reason i try to practice obaying all the rules of disc golf even during casual play . So that way i don't get into any bad habits that could screw me Points or disqualification during a tourney.

[durtydoggy]

Its not something that I would cry about. I am trying to learn it myself. But the way the rule is written, it sounds illegal. I am sure that this is on the PDGA website but I might post this question there to see what the big boys have to say about it...

[mrsenortyler]

You can jump putt legally. The thing is you just have to release the disc before you leave the ground. Once the disc is thrown, you can jump, cartwheel, dance all you want (Outside 10M)

Thats what most people try to do. Sometimes you can catch somebody jump putting illegally, i.e. throwing the disc while in the air. If you are behind a large wall or in a bush, it's not o.k. to jump into the air and release the disc at your highest point because of this rule.

Lizard is right about marking the disc. You can use a mini, or your thrown disc as your marker. Usually, it is advantageous to use a mini, especially when putting. But other times, it may be more beneficial to use your thrown disc as the marker. The best example is when behind a tree or other obstacle, marking the disc with a mini would only bring you closer to the tree and more into play. I

f you want to throw the same disc that you did on your previous throw, you must mark it with a mini.

I say flipping the disc is fine in casual play, and sometimes I do it in KDGA events, but I never do it in PDGA sanctioned events. I don't think it really maters, but those are the rules. I know KDGA events have adopted PDGA rules of play, but rules like this, and the no alcohol rule are often not considered at KDGA tournys.

[disclizard]

Just wondering Why the 2 sets of rules?

[mrsenortyler]

It's one set of rules. The PDGA rules of play. People just don't pay attention to all the rules in KDGA events for certain reasons.

[disclizard]

ok i guess thats what i am asking then why ? If its pdga rules why not follow them? like i said i'm just inquiring . I personaly don't play enough tourney to really care.

[durtydoggy]

I think he is talking about rules such as smoking, drinking, wearing a shirt, etc... Those rules are more emplace to give the public the image that the PDGA is not a bunch of alcholic- pot smoking hippies, that most of us are! Rules that don't affect the outcome of a tournament.

[2]

I was getting complaints all the time, and yes sometimes it looks like my foot is off the ground when I putt.. But you really have to release before your foot/ toe of your shoe is off the ground or you will have no control..... For fun one time we would jump in the air and putt.....no control!!!

[mrsenortyler]

I think he is talking about rules such as smoking, drinking, wearing a shirt, etc... Those rules are more emplace to give the public the image that the PDGA is not a bunch of alcholic- pot smoking hippies, that most of us are! Rules that don't affect the outcome of a tournament.

Yeah, its these rules. Illegal substances, t-shirts, and the score keeping also. If you add your scorecard incorrectly, or fail to do so at all, at PDGA events you will get a penalty of 2 strokes over the correct score. I personally think thats a bit harsh, and most KDGA TD's don't enforce this rule.

[disclizard]

I guess I just wonder why the KDGA is so lax in its rules. even some area like winfield is more lax in league rules than say emporia and wichita. I for one wouldn't mind a little stricter inforcement of all the PDGA rules and any event above a league play. If its a tourney that "Could" atract mediea such as a charity event, Disc golf clinic,or C tier tourney, Why not inforce the rules that DO make DISC GOLF look better in the eyes of the public and inforce the rules of FAIR play? honestly i am not trying to stir a pot here but I have always wondered why the Atmospher at the worlds or any Atier tourney is so much cleaner and yet less stresful and just as fun than these smaller tourneys?

I also will admit that yes I have been one to partake of the chronic on the course during an event. but i sure don't need to and probably would even do a little better if i didn't .