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Tee Signs for Concrete
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:31 pm
by str8
The parks dept. has $2,500 allocated for new tee signs. Just wanted some input from local and regional golfers.
Here is what I sould like on the sign:
1. Picture of hole from the tee (including alt pin locations)
2. distances of holes
3. # of the hole (obviously)
4. Indication of where to look for next tee.
We need a tee sign that is super durable. People love to destroy our asphalt signs. We need something that is visable and clearly marked. We need something within budget or under budget to where we could maybe replace the old asphalt tee signs.
The sooner we figure it out, the better. The off season is prime time for the city to get some work done on the course.
Str8
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:36 pm
by Ruder
How much do tee signs cost?
You're right. I'm afraid if anything nice gets put in, somebody will just break it a few weeks later.
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:45 am
by Schoen-hopper
Nice!
I saw some tee signs recently (T-2, Orlando FL) that were just a beveled 4x4 with a larger square piece of wood on top. It had some plastic on top of that with a laminated picture on top. They couldn't have been that expensive. I might know who did them. Maybe I can ask around.
For the picture, they used computer drawn diagrams that included both tees and both pins. You like the idea of a photograph. Waterworks Park and Jones Park both are great examples of how this is an excellent choice as well.
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:52 am
by Ruder
Tulsa has a course that uses the photographs also. Every course I've seen with these kind of signs looks awesome.
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:28 pm
by McCabe
Photos are the way to go!
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:29 pm
by beisner
That's great news!
My $0.02:
I'd get a few long pieces of blown oilfield tubing donated from one of the well servicing companies who are doing so well right now.
Get some 10" wide 3/8" plate steel donated from one of the machine/welding shops who are also not starving. they'd probably even break it into the right sized pieces too!
The parks folks most likely have a cutting torch and welder.
Have 'em weld a 10" x 10" (or whatever size you need) piece of plate steel at a 45 degree angle to the top of your post (filled with concrete), and you have a very durable surface to mount a sign. Have them weld a 10" piece of rebar onto the buried portion of the post (at an angle) to keep 'em from uprooting the sign. Only a little concrete will be necessary.
Short of hitting it with a vehicle, those puppies aren't going to be abused.
You could drill 4 holes in the plate to sandwich your sign between the steel and plexiglass...
... or shalack the heck out of the sign, after affixing it right onto the steel. This is what we're looking into. If you go with a photo, be careful about the UV durability of the print.
Can't remember where, but I've seen a course with sun-faded photos that probably used to be really nice. I'm sure that's a bummer to them. I think it was in central Missouri.
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:57 pm
by str8
Most of the feedback I've gotten indicates we'd be better off to build our own tee signs. What we're considering is using old telephone poles for the base of the signs and then to use a 12 x 18 metal plate frame for the actual signs. If we can come up with a blue print soon the Parks department can get started right away. They have a laid back schedule between now and April, but after April it will be tight.
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:39 pm
by Ruder
So what you are saying is we need to get this done before April?
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:30 pm
by str8
Correct,
I talked to Mark Albers today, you may remember him from his starring role as "Captain Drunk." Anyway he said he would try to draw up a blueprint for me. I think if we should bury the poles about 3ft deep and have about 4ft above ground. What I need to determine is how to mount the metal frame onto the pole and what angle to cut the pole at. Could we drill a hole in the middle of the pole and mount the frame that way, or is there a better option?
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:52 pm
by Ruder
I think if we keep in mind to have it vandalism proof while designing it we couldn't go wrong. Either something that can't be broke or something that if it's broke can only break in a certain spot to wear a reattachment would be a quick and cheap fix.
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:14 pm
by Nivek9
Ruder wrote:... to have it vandalism proof while designing it we couldn't go wrong.......
If you make it vandal proof they'll make a better vandal.
Difficult to damage but inexpensive to repair/replace is a good goal.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:08 am
by str8
Claudio is going to weld a model for us, hope to have it soon.
Str8
Re: Tee Signs for Concrete
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:07 pm
by Ruder
str8 wrote:The parks dept. has $2,500 allocated for new tee signs. Just wanted some input from local and regional golfers.
Here is what I sould like on the sign:
1. Picture of hole from the tee (including alt pin locations)
2. distances of holes
3. # of the hole (obviously)
4. Indication of where to look for next tee.
We need a tee sign that is super durable. People love to destroy our asphalt signs. We need something that is visable and clearly marked. We need something within budget or under budget to where we could maybe replace the old asphalt tee signs.
The sooner we figure it out, the better. The off season is prime time for the city to get some work done on the course.
Str8
Just reading old posts
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:05 pm
by Bangrrr
Get someone to cut the tee map into the top of your current posts with a water jet and then fill them in with clear epoxy......just a thought
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:20 am
by Schoen-hopper
I still think that Hays is the most killer course in the state. Now that Ted's is gone, all the more.
It's frustrating that every time I play there, those asphalt tees cost me a few strokes per round. Would it be possible to remove the back boards and make dirt ramps up to them? A better idea would be just to replace them with concrete tees.
On the signs, you could use those limestone columns and put a 7x9 size flat sign on top. Maybe grind the colums to 45 degrees first.
Its all about time and money. Just thinking that a few improvements really would secure this course as one of the greatest in the nation.